haplogroup K (mtDNA) and R1b (yDNA) on Alpenland and Altaitalia Hinterland (AAH) like all-cisalpine hinterland
genetic root of the indigenous alpine montagnards and cisalpine peoples like all-aboriginals only
(page established February 13th 2008 - revised August 6th 2012)
www.alpenlander.eu and www.cisalpini.eu provisional homepage

Alpenland
Cisalpini Homeland

the Alpenland and Altaitalia Hinterland (AAH) alike all-cisalpine hinterland is home
for all indigenous alpine montagnards and aboriginals cisalpine peoples (the Liguri, Laepontini, Raeti, Carni, Histri, Veneti, Lumbards, etc. as ancient Roman explorers called them all) linking their ancient roots deep beyond the so-called "prehistoric Retic horizon" deep into origins of haplogroup K (mtDNA) and R1b (yDNA) as well .....and dating beyond the Last Glacial Maximum (LGM) well before 30.000 years ago (50/60.000 by haplogroup K itself) residing on entire alpine hinterland overlapping it and spanning from the Luni stones near the Ligurian sea to Rhone river delta to Rhine gates to Danube springs to Drava river and the Po valley down to Adriatic seashore and islands

all aboriginals only.....
since the origin of this (our) ancestral territory and
now by the romance language overall

today we holds into all female mitochondria the same K-haplogroup again: nobody changed it since

. our pages are for those who are searching their ancestors on this cisalpine hinterland .....commencing from books and documents by prof. Luigi Luca Cavalli-Sforza with Paolo Menozzi and Alberto Piazza and Guido Barbujani and Michele Belledi an Rosaria Scozzari and Anna Di Rienzo and Valentina Guida and Chiara Rengo and Silvana Santachiara-Benerecetti and Laura Morelli and Daniela Contu and Federico Santoni and Paolo Francalacci (and many others like Bryan Sykes and Maureen Raymo and Lorraine Lisiecki and Elaine Morgan and Cesare Emiliani and Colin Renfrew with Robert and Berdine Ardrey of course) describing the state-of-art in the genetic distance and prehistoric geography at first and deeping on cisalpine genealogy next (these 3 page-links will be activated soon) ( Time ) HISTORY GENETIC ARCHIVES the haplogroup K mtDNA (like others) is today the same haplogroup of its origins because during 50/60.000 years the natural selection has duplicated it unchanged: if not clustering itself by various haplotypes that have not changed this "K" at all..... as is typical by the natural selection through the classical mendelian law as well if you care so the genetic distance by indigenous or aboriginals ever living on alpenland and altaitalia hinterland measured in today's genetic tests (spanning 120 alleles and over) reveal the same persistent configuration through 60.000 years because we are a typical mendelian population here..... even if before and after the fall of Rome (year 378 or 476 maybe) aliens try to command us and our land using dull and bloody methods that peoples well educated do not use notwithstanding these aliens we are today who we was yesterday because genetic distance here reveals that they vanished..... and nobody (nor celts or kurghs nor indianeuropoids or seafaring farmers) was able to re-shape or change our genetic packet here this was pointed out many years ago by scholars like Carlo Cattaneo and Carleton S. Coon .....exactly as now genes (and only genes) proves it please note that genetic distance is never measured by kilometers or statute miles (to stroll through steppes could be an antropological exercise but is never a genetic job) because "genetic" stand for mutations not migrations (of course) and is kindly measured by single nucleotide polymorphism (SNP) and genes or alleles (and so on) but only through the natural selection sieve and mendelian law flows and..... at last only trough TIME ( Territory ) GEOGRAPHY HINTERLAND ARCHIVES in various maps and diagrams by prof. Cavalli-Sforza and Brian Sykes (with many others) you see clearly our hinterland where (for instance) an allele typical within our genetic packet stops its presence toward all adiacent populations (or viceversa) where in maps of languages and gazetteers or tables of surnames you will see this same "genetic" hinterland measured on the ground this is the land where our mendelian population live on earth and is called ancestral territory because all ancestors of our mendelian population (so the aboriginals or indigenous peoples) think to be on it since the origins of it..... and note that our ancestors think that as we think of it now please note: since the origins of that territory and not since origins of whatsoever population .....because nobody could came onto our land and next (after one or two thousand years) claims to have our land when the human genomic diversity project was launched in 1991 by a group of prominent researchers (among them prof. Cavalli-Sforza and Mary-Claire King) the goal was to preserve the DNA of indigenous peoples (not the void shadows of melting-pot) and next in "The History and Geography of Human Genes" authors point out that "only genes have the degree of permanence necessary" to track 100.000 years of human evolution in this manner they urged all indigenous peoples (aboriginals) to catalogue itself and resist extinction our land is the same land ever described in those reconnaissances the ancient scouts and centurions reported to senators in Rome (or Athens and Sparta) and this land forever..... is our ancestral TERRITORY ( People ) GENEALOGY FAMILY ARCHIVES we suggest you to join here your Family Clan and testing next jointly with people that holds your surname tracking your most recent common ancestor (MRCA) when possible the database will have open access after screening at least 99 peoples each surname (each surmane connected but ever free from other surnames) or after two bulk screening in a surname (at least) according proposals to the steering committee for your surname all links will be provided here but (at first) all works within this Archive will be organized through our mail box at gmail.com (read complete email string here under) please use it meanwhile will be described some typical surnames to help you plan a simple personal genetic test or sequencing your entire genome and tracks your surname (your family complex) here: (A1) Alpine hinterland Reto-Rumantsch (sursilvan, sutsilvan, surmiran) Ladini (grigiun, lumbard, venetic, dolomitic, furlan) Lepontini (and some other montagnards on the leftside of Rhein river) all spanning from the Rhone to Danube rivers; (A2) Altaitalia hinterland Liguri (from the left of Rhone river to Lunigiana, to Piedmont, to Aemilia, and Romagna, and the Montefeltro) Veneti, Furlani, Histri, Lumbard, from the Monterosa range to Drava river and the Quarnero islands down the Po valley; our hinterland therefore is measured by various (typical) haplotypes into our AAH modal range and you can join us even if you are now overseas (somewhere in the world) but do not mind what is your haplogroup: because if your family departed from here..... now you are our PEOPLE .

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